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Tin tức 11-26-2020 23:57

Trump's Pants on Fire claim about votes exceeding voters in swing states
 
Donald Trump
stated on November 22, 2020 in a tweet:
“In certain swing states, there were more votes than people who voted, and in big numbers.”


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In a late-night tweet, President Donald Trump highlighted an election statistic that he thought ought to raise eyebrows.

"In certain swing states, there were more votes than people who voted, and in big numbers," Trump tweeted at 11:37 p.m. ET Nov. 22. "Does that not really matter?"
There is no reading of this claim that makes it accurate.

Trump might be recycling the inaccurate claim that in pivotal states, there were more votes than registered voters. Charges of that sort circulated quickly right after Election Day, and they were simply wrong.
Trump didn’t specify which states he had in mind — and our request for details from the White House and the Trump campaign went unanswered. So we focused on the states where Trump’s lawyers have most aggressively challenged results: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

In each of those, there are far more registered voters than votes cast. In Georgia, Michigan and Pennsylvania, the difference is more than 2 million people in each state. At 387,612, Wisconsin has the narrowest gap, but that doesn’t include same-day registrations, so the exact number will change.

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In any event, the number of registered voters greatly exceeds the number of votes counted.
Trump’s tweet could also be interpreted as him saying large numbers of people voted twice — once by mail, and once in person. But there is no evidence of that happening "in big numbers" either.

The National Association of Secretaries of State tracks each state’s approach to ensuring one voter cannot cast two ballots. Basically, it all comes down to software that links votes to voters, no matter how a ballot comes in.
"States have databases that record the receipt of a ballot from a voter and mark that voter as having voted," said Philip Stark, University of California-Berkeley election security researcher. "If you vote by mail and your ballot was received, you would not be permitted to cast a vote in person at the polls; you would be marked as having voted already."

There have been instances when voters show up to vote in person before their mailed ballot arrives. The same voter database process works that direction, too. The voter’s appearance at the polling station is recorded and if a mailed ballot appears, it is saved, but not counted.

Trump said that in key swing states, there were more votes than people voting, "in big numbers."

There is zero proof. If he meant there were more votes cast than registered voters, election data show the opposite. In the six key states we examined, there were between several hundred thousand and 2 million more registered voters than votes cast.

If he meant that there was a lot of double voting, his lawyers have provided no evidence to back that up. States use careful systems to prevent that from taking place.

We rate this claim Pants on Fire!


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